The Patchbay Blog

First time patchbay buyer who needs some guidance

On Apr 14, 2016, at 5:30 PM, MICHAEL wrote:
Hi,
I want to get a patchbay for my studio.  Instead of buying an expensive multichannel audio interface, I decided to get a good quality one with a few channels, and hook it up to a patchbay so I can access outboard gear as I need it.  The interface I decided on is an Audient ID22, which has 2 xlr/trs mic/line inputs and 6 outputs.  One set of outputs would go to my monitors.  It also has 2 sends and returns that I can use to hook into outboard gear, which is perfect for the way I want to work. I only record one thing at a time.  This box would let me do that and still keep a stereo compressor on my mixbus.    
https://audient.com/sites/default/files/id22-manual_v1.8_en.pdf

So I want to hook that into a patchbay.  The outboard I need to hook into the patchbay is as follows:
3x 2-channel preamps and 1x mono preamp, each with one XLRmic and one DI input per channel
4 channels worth of compressors that can use either XLR or TRS
1 mono EQ that can use xlr or trs
I also have 7 effects units, delays etc that would be fun to hook in as well.  They are all TRS or TS.

I’m trying to learn about normals, halfnormals etc. and I’m understanding it but it’s hard to wrap my head around exactly the way I should have the patchbay set up.  I don’t want to get into soldering, and it looks like you have options in your store that would keep me out of the soldering arena.

I just want a way to easily patch preamps and outboard gear in various combinations and send it  through the Audient when I’m tracking, and to use my outboard as inserts when I’m mixing/ adding effects.

What would you suggest?

Thanks so much for your help,

Mike

On Apr 15, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Bob Hickey <motodata@flash.net> wrote:

Thinking of your setup. I would do something like this:

top-row
( Audient outs) (Audient insert sends) (mic press out) ( comp/limiters out) (EQ’s out) (effects out) (any mastering stuff outs) (MULT ONE)

bottom-row
( Audient ins) (Audient insert returns) (mic press inputs) ( comp/limiters inputs) (EQ’s inputs) (effects inputs) (any mastering stuff inputs) (MULT TWO)

you may have more outputs than inputs. so you end up with some blank hole in the patchbay so that in’s & outs can line up top & bottom. I will explain MULTS later tonight or you can google that.

Bob


On Apr 18, 2016, at 2:52 PM, MICHAEL<big*****@me.com> wrote:
Bob,
I had a busy weekend and wasn’t able to get my head around MULTS but will do so over the next couple of days.  I understand the rest of the recommended setup (outs/sends on top; ins/inserts on bottom).  I will continue filling in the spreadsheet.  Do you want me to send it back to you afterwards and take it from there?
Thanks,
Mike

Yes Mike please send the spreadsheet back when you are done. 

MULTS: These are only a way to split signals. A four-way MULT gives you one input and three outputs. So you could take a mono audio signal and plug that into a MULT then you can send that signal to two ( or three) different signal paths using different comps , EQ or other effects and then A/B the two signals. Or works great to make a mono into simi-stereo etc.

Bob
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